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How does one create a new Usenet newsgroup?


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Brief answer: If you do not know, then you probably are far too inexperienced to consider it.

Long answer: The creation of a Usenet newsgroup is quite a complicated process. Not technically, but administratively. The creation process is described e.g. in

usenews.zip Usenet Netiquette, creating new newsgroups, etc advice

Among other things creating a new newsgroup in the "Big-8" hierarchies involves a request for discussion (RFD), a call for votes (CFV), a waiting period if the votes passes, the actual creation by the Usenet authorities. For information see "The big eight newsgroup creation process" by Russ Allbery. For special information about moderated newsgroups see Denis McKeon's mod-faq.html. Furthermore, there is a lot of useful information, including "Creating New Newsgroups" at the news.newusers.questions newsgroup's home page, if you have a little patience to browse through the material. Or, subscribe to the said newsgroup, and wait until Jon Bell's frequently posted "TIP" WHERE TO FIND OUT HOW TO CREATE A NEWSGROUP comes around!

I was involved in the creation of the two comp.archives.msdos newsgroups even if the actual voting process was kindly taken care by another person. I can assure you that it is much hard work and it takes several months (yes, indeed) to go through the whole process. Hence it is not realistic to make suggestions of creating new newsgroups without careful consideration and groundwork.

Carefully think is it really a newsgroup you wish to have. In many cases, especially if the need is local, you might instead wish to consider setting up a mailing list.


From Sethu Rathinam. Reprinted with permission. If you want to create a Usenet newsgroup, you need to read at least the following documents - they are posted to news.answers and/or news.groups periodically. Read these groups often for at least 6 months before attempting to create a newsgroup.
  1. How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup
  2. So you want to Create an Alt Newsgroup
  3. Usenet Newsgroup Creation Companion
The above is a *minimum* requirement. Strong Advice: If you are in a hurry to create a newsgroup, you shouldn't be creating one.

Timo's addendum: Browse news.announce.newgroups for David C Lawrence's

  1. How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup
  2. How to Write a Good Newsgroup Proposal
  3. How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal

A point by David DeLaney. "Before you do anything else, you check to make sure that there are no existing groups that already cover the area." See "Where do I find a complete list of Usenet newsgroups?"
After a positive vote result to create a new newsgroup has been confirmed there still can be hitches. There have been considerable problems in 1998 because of forged cmsg control messages to create bogus newsgroups. Jon Bell told me that some newsadmins may have disabled automatic new newsgroups processing altogether. "People who are interested in the new groups [that have passed the vote] will have to ask their news server administrators to add those groups. Providing them with a copy of the vote results from DejaNews or elsewhere would probably help."
The process of creating the alt-hierarchy newsgroups differs somewhat. Eric O. Troldahl points out that alt-newsgroups creation advice is best asked on alt.config.

National hierarchy newsgroups also have systems of their own, which can vary. The links at the end of this page cover one example, the creation of new sfnet newsgroups. That information is in the local language, Finnish, to emphasize the national-only nature of such newsgroups.

Finally, there are newsgroups local to an organization. For example, many universities have a newsgroup system of their own. The creation of a new newsgroup in the local hierarchy is usually up to the local newsadmin. If so, it is him/her you should ask.


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